The pack (1)

Hi James

Found this video whilst deleting stuff on the camera, i think its in response to the dog howling at the squeeky toy on you tube but not sure.

You will have to put up those wolf links again that you want a reaction from here so i can get filming for you, i really enjoy your psycho analyzing sessions with my fur babies.

Thanks Liz,

I am just going out the door to take the pooch for a walk, so just had a quick look, first impression I get is that they are working as a team which is what I was hoping to see, if I am right then dogs that fight with each other could end up working with each other instead if the right howls are played to them and they see an outside threat and work together instead of fighting....

I think its worth exploring, coz if it does work it will be a better solution that using dominance or separating the dogs with child stair gates etc.....

Anyway more later, must dash......will put the wolf links up later.....

just watched it back a number of times, is that keisha at the end of the clip having a word with Ava? possibly to diffuse the situation between Ava and the boy .....as in the middle of the clip your boy coming to the front to investigate?.....quite beta like I would say if it is and after Ava has a word with him he retreats and then looks at him which is why I say possibly keisha is diffusing the situation like an omega would....hard to say from the clip who is howling back but it seems to me Ava who stays her ground seems to be trying to initiate the howling back which as alpha would be her job and then the others join in.....

There is a lot going on in a 41 second clip!....

Hi Liz,

The wolf howling clips you wanted.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mEVsmeDknA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR4EIJlnwgQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqgrfBLIcoA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVk0cZw3JNQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP-9bepQhYo

Admin wrote:just watched it back a number of times, is that keisha at the end of the clip having a word with Ava? possibly to diffuse the situation between Ava and the boy .....as in the middle of the clip your boy coming to the front to investigate?.....quite beta like I would say if it is and after Ava has a word with him he retreats and then looks at him which is why I say possibly keisha is diffusing the situation like an omega would....hard to say from the clip who is howling back but it seems to me Ava who stays her ground seems to be trying to initiate the howling back which as alpha would be her job and then the others join in.....

There is a lot going on in a 41 second clip!....

Spot on James.

Yes its quite a good clip, i prefer to view it without sound, have you done that?

Kiesha has recently taken to barking at the door being chapped along with Kai, quite unusual for her. Of course she still bolts upstairs to view whoever it is at the door from a safe distance so she's not that brave yet

Admin wrote:Hi Liz,

The wolf howling clips you wanted.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mEVsmeDknA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR4EIJlnwgQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqgrfBLIcoA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVk0cZw3JNQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP-9bepQhYo

Excellent, Ava's a bit poorly just now so i'll wait until she's fighting fit to film so all three of them are involved.

liz wrote:

Admin wrote:just watched it back a number of times, is that keisha at the end of the clip having a word with Ava? possibly to diffuse the situation between Ava and the boy .....as in the middle of the clip your boy coming to the front to investigate?.....quite beta like I would say if it is and after Ava has a word with him he retreats and then looks at him which is why I say possibly keisha is diffusing the situation like an omega would....hard to say from the clip who is howling back but it seems to me Ava who stays her ground seems to be trying to initiate the howling back which as alpha would be her job and then the others join in.....

There is a lot going on in a 41 second clip!....

Spot on James.

Yes its quite a good clip, i prefer to view it without sound, have you done that?

Kiesha has recently taken to barking at the door being chapped along with Kai, quite unusual for her. Of course she still bolts upstairs to view whoever it is at the door from a safe distance so she's not that brave yet

Just watched it back without any sound, it does make you concentrate on the body language I see what you mean, being the omega kiesha will hear people at the door first and the beta will come and investigate, very similar to how I have seen the beta Tamaska (the black wolf) in Shauns pack behave, what I saw was 2 lower ranked wolves pace up and down the outskirts of the enclosure very slowly, when a horse or dog goes past they pace a bit faster.....this then alerts Tamaska to come and investigate, trotting along like a wolf who owns the place.......

When I went to visit I got there early and nobody was about, Tamaska came to check me out and after about 1 minute laid down with his head in his paws just like a GSD might do and would give me the occasional glance out of the corner of his eye, it may sound daft but it felt magical to watch him.....a fantastic wolf.......